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| Neapolitan coffee, at Kiton |
One of the things I always find interesting in such trips is how priorities vary between tailoring cultures. Not just the different styles to a lapel, but the little things that are so accepted as to be rarely discussed in one city, yet ubiquitously contradicted in another.
Little things like buttons. English tailors will use unpolished horn buttons 90% of the time. A polished button is considered showy, too like ready-to-wear, perhaps a little too similar to plastic. Certainly the difference between a polished horn button and a good fake on a Ralph Lauren jacket is far less pronounced. Most Neapolitans consider this silly, polishing their horn (as it were), and using corozo nut buttons as often as horn – which can look even more like plastic.
Silk lining in jackets is another. I remember when I was first learning about bespoke and speaking to English tailors, everyone said exactly the same thing about linings: synthetic silks like bemberg are much better, for longevity and breathability. So how come no one in Naples uses it, where the weather is that much hotter? Even in fully lined jackets.
To stray onto something a little more fundamental, the attitude to hand work, particularly on shirts, is completely different. One young Neapolitan gentleman genuinely told me “I’d simply die if I couldn’t wear shirts with handsewn buttonholes.” It was rather Anthony Blanche. And yet, as I pointed out, English shirtmakers put no hand work into their shirts – even the aspects that could be considered more functional, less aesthetic, like attaching sleeves or sewing collars in the round. These guys love English brands; but they don’t quite agree with their principles.
There are hundreds of differences. (Buttonholes on jackets being another. Fine or double-sewn work is considered rather foppish and associated with north Italy or France, yet a waterfall at the sleevehead is not.)
I have deliberately steered away from differences that are obviously matters of taste, such as padding and pocket shapes. The number of little things that remain should perhaps serve as a warning to anyone who takes his principles of tailoring too straight or too seriously.
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| Writer Giancarlo Maresca, with Talarico umbrella |
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Actually, I've wondered about the silk lining topic myself and found the exact feedback. What would they say about why silk is used over bemberg?
ReplyDeleteThat it feels and looks better. Which it does, in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteDifferences in tayloring ... cultures. This is an issue that needs to be properly digged into, Simon. I hope you would do that! From my perspective, that is mainly from someone interested in ready to wear, one thing is really striking, namely the variety of the items produced by these guys in terms of cloth, color and style. It is quite easy to check this claim. Just consider a quite simple classic item such as the navy blazer. Now take a look at what the most well known British fashion retailers and stores are offering right now: slanted and ticket pocket jackets as though we were all addicted to that, and that they couldn't do otherwise! It's the new uniform, as powerful as the former "no brown in town" dictum! It is absolutely impressive and ... depressing as well! Whereas they could introduce a bit variety. Thus, there is a huge gap right now between the high quality and variety of cloth still crafted in the UK and what are actually offered in stores or online as ready to wear items! To escape the uniform in style and cloth, bespoke seems then to be the most sound alternative! Such a huge gap is my view unthinkable in Neaples and more broadly in Italy.It goes without saying that the fashion retailers are sticking to these uniforms at their own peril!
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"It was rather Anthony Blanche" - Brilliant
ReplyDeleteMr. Crompton,
ReplyDeleteCan you recommend a good online source, or at least, state-side source for quality horn buttons? Looking for really quality buttons that will add to a hopsack blazer without being too obvious. Any recommendations on a shade, or over-all color tone?
Afraid I can't help Andrew, having never bought any in the US. I like a dark brown though, with plenty of variegation in the colours
ReplyDeleteThere are dozens of excellent Sartoria in Napoli that will make you a bespoke suit for 500 - 700 EUR. You only have to buy the fabric which will cost you for 150s around 30,- EUR per meter, you need 3 meters for a suit. So for 700-800 EUR you will have a better suit than 99% of the population. And these tailors that will charge you fair price are not worse than Kiton or Attolini.
ReplyDeleteI travel to Napoli few times a year, I will give you some names and photos of these tailors, it is truly worth visiting them.
One more thing, I bought in Rome 180s Loro Piana fabric for 95,- EUR a meter, I am going to Napoli in May to make my suit from this wonderful fabric. You just have to know how to shop. Something that Kiton would charge me 7,000 - 10,000 EUR for I will have for less than 1,000 EUR.
Thanks. I know a few more like 1500 euros, but I've also seen some smaller ones of not that great quality. Recommendations very much appreciated
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