Wednesday, 16 January 2013

Wallets: reader question

 
 

Dear Mr Simon,

Let me first say that I always admire your passion and insight into gentlemen's garments. I am a fan of Permanent Style and I have been hooked on it for years.
 
I have one long-standing question: what kind of wallet should I carry with my suit? Which do you think is better - having a card case and bill case separately or a card-and-bill case combined? Of course, there are some alternatives like money clips. And then, which pocket to store it in?

I know that some tailors close suit pockets up for two reasons - to prevent wearers from putting items in and then to prevent the suit from being out of shape because of the first reason.

Because of that, one side of my brain is saying to me that I should buy a combined one to reduce my items to carry but the other side is saying that if I do so, it might be a lump and ruin my suit silhouette. I am sort of snookered. haha

These questions might sound rather trivial but I would be grateful if you could share your ideas about them with me.

I look forward to your reply.

Taku

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Hi Taku,

The key to carrying any kind of wallet is to keep it as slim as possible, so be very restrictive with what you carry you with you – the minimum number of cards, only the most recent receipts etc.

I find the best style is then a long wallet, sometimes called a coat or jacket wallet. It minimises the amount of overlap of your cards, so the wallet is as thin as possible (see picture above). If you restrict yourself to four or five cards, you can even just use every other slot.

The other side of the wallet carries your bills and receipts. I know people have to carry far more notes in other countries than in the UK (we get stuck with coins), but they shouldn’t thicken that other side too much.

Ideally, your wallet should still not be in your jacket pocket. It should be in a briefcase or whatever bag you carry with you. Certainly that’s where chunkier items like your keys should go, and you should avoid it altogether with lightweight suits.

But if it does have to go in your jacket, put it in the in-breast pocket and balance the other side with something – I have an iPhone 5, and that’s light and thin enough to work. (It wasn’t really excuse enough to upgrade from the iPhone 4, but then I like gadgets.) Keep your jacket done up too – that helps a lot with supporting the jacket and its contents.

It is also helpful if your tailor cuts the in-breast pocket slightly higher than in a normal, off-the-peg suit. It means that the wallet will slightly fill out your chest, rather than your chest and waist. Of all the tailors I’ve tried, only Anderson & Sheppard and those that trained at A&S do this as standard. Perhaps it’s having that bit of drape to play with.

I hope that's helpful. The image at top is an Asprey coat wallet.

Simon

14 comments:

  1. It depends on the occasion. If the drape aspect *is* critical - which it isn't on an everyday basis - I only bring my driving licence (=ID), Visa card and one or two banknotes.

    /Håkan, Sweden

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  2. Simon I too am a fan of your blog. This post was one of the most useful I've read in a while. I've long used a coat wallet in the manner you suggest and offer another reason for keeping things to a minimum - if you happen to lose it - the fewer things you need to cancel! As my wife said to me 10 years ago "do you really need to carry every card with you?" Great blog and happy New Years!
    Dimitrios

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  3. Hi Simon
    Good advice. I try and carry everything in my briefcase now and it works well. You just have to train yourself to put things in there instead of stuffing them in the nearest pocket. I remember a few years ago, you did a post on the Alfred Dunhill pochette. I've toyed with the idea of getting one as it really fits the bill(intended), but I just can't seem to overcome the self conciousness of carrying it, lovely as it looks. It's strange how the mind functions, I started wearing bow ties occasionally to work a few years ago. On the first day it drew a lot of comments, but I carried on doing it and by about the third or fourth time I didn't even give it a second thought. Mentally, there seems to be a lot more resistence to the pochette. Do you still use yours?

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  4. I would go with Ettinger, either coat or billfold. Quite simply, the best bridle hide leather wallets around, bar none.

    K

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    1. There isn't that much to separate quality wallets. Most use similar leathers within their type - so all bridle hide leathers are pretty much the same and any cordovan will come from Horween and be pretty much the same.

      The only other differentiator is sewing my hand or machine. Ettinger and others are by machine, whereas those closer to $1000 or more, including Berluti, Hermes, Valextra or similar, and hand sewn.

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  5. Simon - do you think the coat wallet should be (soft) calf or (harder) bridle? I find I prefer the calf but also find the bridle holds shape better If wallet placed in my coat. I would be interested in your views Dimitrios

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    1. I think it's just a case of personal preference - there is little practical difference. I tend to prefer calf

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  6. I enjoy your blog and read it daily. I had this same issue years back and changed to a money clip and card holder. But then reduced to essentials with just the money clip and a couple of cards. I have got use to using what I have and have had no problems since. I also balance out with phone.

    Cheers

    Robert

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  7. I stopped using wallets a while ago. My bespoke trousers have outward angled inner pockets inside the front pockets. 2-3 credit cards and ID go in the left inner pocket. Mobile phone in the right inner pocket. Neatly folded cash goes in the jacket inner breast pocket.

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    1. Sounds like a good compromise, though I'm not sure I would carry a phone in my trouser pocket, even in the inner pocket for change that mine have.

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  8. Wallet in briefcase or bag? So now I'm supposed to carry a briefcase or bag wherever I go? That's ridiculous. What is the point of tailors giving a jacket 3 or more inside pockets as standard if you're supposed to keep everything in your bag?

    I keep my wallet in my left inside pocket. My tailor knows that's where I keep it, he knows how big it is, and he cuts the jacket accordingly. He cuts another pocket for my phone on the other side. In my trouser pocket, there is room for my keys. And that way my hands are free and I don't need to worry about losing my handbag.

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    1. I'm sure your tailor would say that, except for heavy cloths, it would be better for the line if there was nothing in the pockets. But as you say that isn't always possible or desireable

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  9. What about coins gentlemen? Where do you keep these? Trouser pockets?

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    1. I try to minimise them, and then keep them in a small internal pocket sewn either into the pocket of the trousers or the hip pocket of the jacket. The smaller the pocket, the more it can take the weight of the metal

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